A chink in the armor of Tyson was that he did not have an inside game, he was not very good at in-fighting. He had to establish some ideal space with which to throw his power punches, especially his hooks. He had no other effective weapon in close-in combat than his uppercuts. When he got near to his opponents or when the opponents got near him, his tendency was to stop punching and to grapple and clinch. He was roundly criticized for this. It was also what made him vulnerable against inside-outside fight specialists as Evander Holyfield who managed to rough and cut him up in close quarters combat.
That's his main difference with Frazier who knew his only chance of being competitive and beating Ali was to keep the distance close and best him in inside fighting. He was successful in their first fight but that proved inadequate in their rubber matches.
Tyson did not have a prayer fighting Ali from the distance, long or medium and not having an effective inside game would put him in further disadvantage. Tyson was the more powerful, explosive fighter but he can't hit what's not there or can't be reached. Ali was also very good at rolling the punches, slipping and blocking them and countering with blazing jabs and combinations. Ali also had some infighting skills honed by his bouts with Frazier where through the help of Flash Elorde in the Thrilla in Manila, he even added mean crosses to his repertoire which are effective against smaller, bobbing and weaving foes like Tyson.
Ali by dominant UD or late round KO/TKO.
I think Tyson is underrated by most people. He is a swarmer with some power like Frazier but Tyson had a better right. If the fight were to go for 12 rounds it could go either way, if Ali holds allot and does like Tillis did to Tyson then i think Ali can get a close decision.
If the fight were a 15 round bout then Ali knocks out a tired Tyson.
Ali.
Tyson was an excellent offensive force, but he didn't have all of the tools necessary to beat Ali. I think Ali would win by boxing on the outside and smothering Tyson on the inside. With Ali's reach and footwork it would be very unlikely for Tyson to win a decision. Tyson also wouldn't be able to do what Frazier did because he didn't have Frazier's work-rate and slowed down considerably after the 6th round. Boxers with inferior skill and chin to Ali were able to take Tyson the distance, so a Tyson knockout victory also probably wouldn't happen.
You're absolutely right. It's ring savvy and smarts that would spell the difference here. Tyson was much stronger and more powerful than Ali, and he had explosive quickness in his hands. But Ali would use his speed to frustrate Tyson, his jab to keep Mike at bay and a lot of his tricks, e.g. clinching, sticking and rope-a-dope to frustrate the volatile Tyson. Once Mike loses his temper, there goes his concentration as well, and Ali would knock him out.
Ali would have won, he's the greatest boxer of all time. The guy beat everyone put in front of him sometimes even fought them 2 or 3 times each. He beat them in their prime aswel. Don't let an 0 a zero fool you. Mayweather cherry picked his opponants. Beating Dela Hoya, Mosley , Cotto etc is pointless cus they were over the hill. Hatton was a blown up welterweight coming from 140. Alverez was way below his weight. 152, where Mayweather should have fought him at 154 as he did against an over the hill cotto, an over rated Gurrero. He always tries to get physical advantges before he steps in the ring with an opponant. Whereas Ali didn't which makes him the greatest fighter of all time.
Now back to Tyson. People underestimate his defence and skillset.He was a small heavyweight but his power was generated from his sublime movement which KOd much bigger guys. His defence was great, which came through his head movement. he had speed, agression, great defence and power. All I can say is we didn't see enough of Tyson greatness cus of his personal problems etc, but he is by FARR the most under rated boxer of all time.
We missed great years of Alis prime as he went to Prison cus of his beliefs. Ali is the greatest fighter that has ever living in the world of boxing.
People ask whether Mayweather would have beaten the likes of Sugar ray robinson/ lenorad , Hearns, Roberto Duran, etc but the truth is Mayweather would have ducked all these fighters in their prime!!
Tyson would not be able to hit Ali. he would lose his temper because of this then Ali would knock Tyson out.
Tyson relied on his crouching Jack in the Box style for his explosive power but Ali's fast feet would easily get him out of range. Tyson usually had things his own way which makes it easier to win but with Ali this would not be the case he would therefore tire out after round 4 then Ali would batter him.
Tyson was a rapist and a violent cheat in the ring so I dont rate him at all.
Ali's name shouldn't even grace the same sentence with Tyson's, Ali was superior to Mike in every comparable category with the possible exception of punching power. Ali would have beat Mike faster and more convincingly than Holyfield did, this one would have been a mismatch had they both met at there respective peaks.
Ali too fast and more heart than slow tired Tyson
it all depends, i think i would have to say ali because he has the speed and technique to escape tyson's barrage and at the same time land a few good shots. HOWEVER, if tyson was to land his hook/uppercut then i think it very well could change the fight. but i would have to say ali
Ali. He had the skill and the power.
Tyson just has power, which isn't a match for skill.
Some people say Tyson. I say Ali. He was much more of a technical boxer than Tyson. Tyson was much more of a brawler. What do you guys think and why?
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