I think he's done. His knee has always been suspect since before the JCC2 fight and now he has a broken hand from teh Murray fight that could see him out until 2014, by that time he'll be 39 years old, even for him coming back is asking quite a lot.

Martinez has been on his decline I think but the injuries he got from his fight with Chavez Jr. finished him. He dominated pretty much the whole fight but that 12th round might have taken something out of him. It's the round I believe he injured his knee in and he also broke his hand in that fight. He broke his hand in his fight with Murray too. How can you be at the top if your hands are broken?

Yes his is finished as a top fighter.

yes, he's starting to fade now.

I mean to be fair I was super tired and was only listening to the commentary of his fight with Murray but Murray knocked him down and I dunno.................I think Martinez I dunno.........